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PostSubject: The KANJI center   Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:50 am

minasan, welcome to the Kanji study center.
I wont be asking you to learn kanji in our classes..at least not before weeks from now.
But for those of you who are interested in kanji, this is your place Very Happy

Remember KANJI are symbols that hold meanings, and can be read in different ways depending on whether they were alone or part of a word of 2 kanji or more.

example :
*Now = いま =IMA ..written as  in kanji. That symbol means now and read as IMA when its alone.
*Day = にち =NICHI..written as in kanji. The symbol means day and is read nichi when its alone. (can be read as HI and means sun )

ok now what do you think this word means : 今日
Without knowing its reading, we can find that it has IMA and NICHI (NOW + DAY) ..so what it the NOW DAY?
NOWDAY is THIS DAY ..in other words TODAY.
TODAY = KYOU...so 今日 is read as KYOU and means TODAY.
Notice how we could guess the meaning without knowing the reading..since the reading becomes different when a kanji is part of a word.

Usually, the kanji reading when its alone is called kun reading (KUN YOMI) and it is the original JAPANESE reading.
The kanji reading when its part of a word is called ON YOMI / ON reading..and its a reading originated from china.(That doesn't mean that in china they are read in the ON yomi way, it is just derived from it).
Remember kANJI are made in China.
Eventhough there are few KANJI that are made in Japan.

Todays kanji lesson ends here.
.........................................................................続く ( = つづく)

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:27 am

Great topic Sensei, I were waiting for it .
Can you give us more information ( and examples ) about ON YOMI and KUN YOMI , onegaishimasu .

And there's the thing I want to know : when the first letter changes like these examples ( dai + sora = oozora ) , ( hi + hana = hibana ) ; is there a specific rules for this ?
I know the letter will change to the similar letter with two dashes ( I think these 2 dashes are called dakuten , ne ? ) but what confuses me that it doesn't always change like this manner ; for example :
( ten + ki = tenki ) but ( otoko + ki = otokogi )

( still having nihono problem on my PC Crying or Very sad so I used romaji , but I understand your first Kanji lesson ) .
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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:11 pm

about on and kun yomi, i will talk about that in later posts.^^
About your second question : hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........
i think there is no specific rule...but from what can i see (or from the words that popped up to my mind now) i guess that you use the dakuten when the word is "original".. i mean a word that you form. like oozora..a big sora , instead we could say ookii sora..but for words that are originally used it remains as is like tenki.. (not sure though but this is what i can see initially)
i know its not so clear ..but in the same time you don't have to worry much about it since we don't "create" these words. we learn them as vocabulary. ^^;
mata ne!

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:27 pm

kanji_chan wrote:
i guess that you use the dakuten when the word is "original".. i mean a word that you form. like oozora..a big sora , instead we could say ookii sora..but for words that are originally used it remains as is like tenki.. (not sure though but this is what i can see initially)
mata ne!

Arigatou ... I think I understand a little Smile , because the word ( tenki ) has a specific meaning ( weather ) it comes like this , but when we want to describe the sky that is big we use dakuten to say ( oozora ) , ne ?

kanji_chan wrote:
but in the same time you don't have to worry much about it since we don't "create" these words. we learn them as vocabulary. ^^;

will, this is good , but I think we need sometimes to create words . Smile

mata ne !


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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:23 pm

good cheers but i dont know how to learn kanji confused , every kanji is two hiregana right so i should study them like we study the hiregana affraid or should i understand the meaning i really dont know No .
do you have any tips on how to study kanji ? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:53 pm

ra2oosh san,
learning kanji can be one of the most challenging parts of learning nihongo. I think that it is also the most OMOSHIROI thing you can do!
Kanji is not always two HIRAGANA. it can be one, two..etc. but i don't think they exceed 4 hiragana Rolling Eyes

learning kanji as most books do is boring, it is not fun to see a kanji and learn all its possible readings and stuff.
The fun way is to learn some vocabulary in hiragana first, then when you feel you became familiar with these words i guess you will be more excited to know the kanji for it. rather than knowing the word for the first time! ^^

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:36 am

well i guess its fun to learn the meaning after all Very Happy , its very intersting . like the other day i have read a japanese name "yamashita" and the kanji for it was the combination of yama which means mountain and shita which means under ,so rawand told me that his name means :
"under the mountain " jocolor but i dont think that this is what they mean i think for the names its based on the pronounceation Exclamation Exclamation
well i am having fun in learning nihongo bounce , i dint feel that i am studing i feel that i am simply doing a hobby or something I love you .
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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:05 pm

Ra2oosh san,
YAMASHITA is a very popular Japanese family name ^^ We do have strange family names too, don't we? Very Happy
You might also guess the kanji for the family name : NAKAYAMA..can you? Wink
nihongo is the same for me, i enjoy it so much i never feel that im studying,, that's why my new dream became to master this omoshiroi language! Cool

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:46 pm


Sensei ,

tsugi wa ..... ?

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:31 am

亜葉間度

i think it's my name in kanji what u think sensei ?

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:33 am

吾派魔怒

what about this ?


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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:48 am

阿派間度
a=阿-Flattering
ha-派-Group
ma-間-Between
do-度-Degree

吾葉魔土
a=吾-Our
ha-葉-Leaf
ma-魔-Demon
do-土-Earth


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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:53 am

I will try to find a nice Kanji composition for my name ... Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:06 am

man is that right ?? y3bi b2dar a3ml my name heek ??


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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:37 am

Well , linguistically it's wrong ... because it's not a japanese word ... but we do it for fun .

The nihongo doesn't appear now on my laptop thoroughly so I didn't know what you have written ; but I'll try to find a nice composition for your name in Amman in sha' ALLAH .

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:43 am

aha it's ok ...


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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:00 pm

ahamado san,
There is nothing like "one correct" kanji name..All what you wrote can be read as ahamado. And choosing one depends on your preferences and if you liked the meanings contained in each kanji u choose.^^

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:01 pm

aha ... cool




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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:13 pm

Hey minna!
zaman 3an el kanji ne!
ok, will you let Japanese kids beat you? kids at FIRST grade learn these kanji :




So can't you learn them as well?
I will be posting the meanings of these kanji little by little. For now i will give you the column to the right.
These are numbers from 1 to 10. Then the kanji for 100 then 1000.
ichi(1),ni(2),san(3),shi/yon(4),go(5),roku(6),shichi/nana(7),hachi(Cool,kyuu/ku(9),juu(10), hyaku(100), sen(1000).
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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:30 am

wow , I've just found a nice KANJI composition for my name ( Biraru ) Razz ..... ビラル





The 1st kanji refers to beauty [ and for men it means handsome : 美男(びなん) ] .... Cool

The 2nd refers to ( quality , 1st class , equal , ... ) ...

& the 3rd refers to ... lapis lazuli ... ( أحجار اللازورد ، نوع من الأحجار الكريمة ) ...

So the full meaning is : Beautiful 1st class Lapis lazuli


And the omoshiroi thing is that the exact reading for this Kanji combination is ( biraru ) , try it on microsoft word by adding the furigana to that kanji Very Happy



omoshiroi , ne ? Cool

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:53 pm

WOW .... great KANjiz...u know what about my name in kanji i find about 5 groups of kanjiz

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:09 pm

yea , me also ... I found many groups and probabilities for it , but I chose this one because I liked its meaning . Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:26 am

well , about 1st grade kanji ... they will not beat me in sha' ALLAH .. Razz

bas 3anjad ... 1st grade students have to learn 80 kanji ... omoshiroi Surprised

Sensei .. do you have pictures for other grades ?? Smile

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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:54 pm

minasan, konnichi wa!
ogenki desu ka?
Here i put some kanji for words we already know. Enjoy! Very Happy

大きい = おおきい ookii = big
小さい = ちいさい chiisai = small
木 = き = ki = tree
本 = ほん = hon = book
今 = いま = ima = now
山 = やま = yama = mountain
上 = うえ = ue = up/above
下 = した = shita = down/below
中 = なか = naka = middle/inside
私 = わたし = watashi
名前 = なまえ = namae
学生 = がくせい = gakusei
大学 = だいがく = daigaku
大学生 = だいがくせい = daigakusei
先生 = せんせい = sensei
日本 = にほん OR にっぽん = nihon/nippon
日本語 = にほんご = nihongo
好き = すき = suki = like
分かります = わかります = wakarimasu = understand
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Try to read :
私の名前はアマニです。
私は大学生です。
日本語が好きです。
これは私の本です。
これは小さい木です。
ねこ は はこ の 中にいます。
本は つくえ の上にあります。
あの山は大きいです。
つくえ の下に ねこ が います。


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PostSubject: Re: The KANJI center   Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:04 pm

Sugoi ... cheers

ありがとう アマニ 先生 。。

I will write only the first sentence and give a chance for the others who love Kanji very much .. Smile

watashi no namae wa Amani desu

質問。。
Do they usually write ( ありがとう ) or ( 有り難う ) ?

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